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[ostarella]

Dirk with his usual honesty :D:D

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2008/06/06/big-brother-sit-back-and-watch-the-freak-show-100252-21033797/

[Hladgunnr]

Smart men are the best men.

[junkfoodmonkey]

Exactly my thoughts on the whole Big Brother and "reality show" crap that fills our screens now. The first couple of series of Big Brother were okay, because they had a kind of social experiment feel about them. Nobody really knew what to expect. The contestents weren't coming on there to try and become famous in the worst possible way. It had this amazing tension, in that we were watching relationships develop and grow and break down in real time. Nobody knew what would happen tomorrow. The producers didn't try to manipulate things, they let them happen naturally.

But after that it went dowhill (oddly enough in the series Jade Goody was first in. Funny that.) And it's got worse year on year. They keep fiddling with the format, losing the pure, simple and winning idea they started out with. They manipulated the contenstants. They choose ALL gobby argumentative people, so instead of a week of straining to be polite before snapping and having the first argument, people are arguing on the first day, which is just so boring and predictable. Every wrinkle they come up with backfires horribly.

They've even messed with the sacredness of the diary room, which is the stupidest thing they could ever do. Some contestants have been absolute stars in the diary room, when they believed that was the one place they knew they could be totally honest. But the producers have broken that trust when they've let others see those conversations. (It happened in Dirk's BB.) Once the contestants don't trust the diary room they'll hold back in there and that would be a terrible shame.

The contestants are all wannabes or total freaks (or both.) It's horrific. Sure, it's sometimes compelling in a "car crash telly" way, but that doesn't mean it's in any way edifying to watch.

Dirk's BB was like torture at time. Gobsmackingly awful. I stuck with it to the end, since Dirk was there till the final night. Would I have watched it if he'd gone earlier? Well maybe, car crash telly again. And sometimes just watching it felt like "being there" for the people on the receiving end of the crap going on in there, Dirk among them of course. Which sounds silly, but that's the way I felt.

Er, right... what the heck am I doing wittering so much about a show I no longer watch?

[ostarella]

Er, right... what the heck am I doing wittering so much about a show I no longer watch?

I think there was so much frustration about that show - even for those who only got bits and pieces of it over here - that we still need to "vent" about it a bit. It's like wanting to slam somebody's head against the way and scream, "Why don't you listen to me!!!!" :mad:

um...er...anyway... :oops: :p

[Lily]

Still has huge frustration now, one of this years contestants Darnell said himself that BB9 ,10 and 11, just won't be as good. For the first time this year there is a couple that have to pretend not to be a couple, and a blind housemate Mikey that have the C4 forums raging about possible humiliation he (may) suffer etc... the level of interfrence that BB is doing in itself, nobody tusts it anymore (no internet streaming either).
I loved Lutting Dirk (live update thread) and until the Goodys `came in it (CBB5) had the potentional to be a good show, but Dirk's comments are correct.
Still watch it tho 'Doh'

[Crazy Tommy T]

The only good thing about last years celebrity Big Brother was bringing Dirks genius to the attention of the British public. Not that they didn't already love him as an actor, but as himself I mean.

[bibbi]

The only good thing about last years celebrity Big Brother was bringing Dirks genius to the attention of the British public. Not that they didn't already love him as an actor, but as himself I mean.

I agree! ;)

[Arciris]

Dirk is The Man. Educated, honest, intelligent, with a big heart, etc..etc..Not possible comparison with some "vipers girls" there..
I agree with you. :):)

[bibbi]

Dirk is The Man. Educated, honest, intelligent, with a big heart, etc..etc..Not possible comparison with some "vipers girls" there..
I agree with you. :):)

Well said! ;)

[deebeelicious]

Just dropping by an old thread to post this from last night's (London) Evening Standard. It's about IAC (I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here), a reality show where celebrities have to tough it out in the Australian jungle, but it's got some relevance to Dirk's time on CBB, and the last line amused me! :))
"The routine has now become so familiar that participants and audience now know roughly what is going to happen before it does. ... The line-up for the new series looked promising on paper. Leaving aside the cleavage contingent and the silly boys, there were some heavyweight contenders. ... There are a couple of decorative girls. One of them is [a] footballer['s] fiancee and the other one isn't. The other one claimed not to be dumb, but the verdict is not in on that. ... There's always a slightly weird American along for the ride - just to subtly indicate how different we are to them.'

:)):))
ROFL - alas this is the recipe for hit reality tv shows in the UK at the moment! :o >:)

[asmay]

I haven´t seen this particular show, but I know the concept from a few Dutch shows with (Dutch) celebrities, from which a few ended quite tragic (illness, emergency surgery, host having a fatal car accident):eek: :(. So I´m not too keen on this subject.

Did I understand correctly, is George Takei the ´American weirdo` this time?! :confused: Besides being a DB fan, I must confess, I am a Trekkie.:oops: So this is really amazing!! I expect George will do nicely after Dirk ...:cool:
Although .... if I had to choose between the two of them, I would pick Dirk anytime ...:oops:;):D

[deebeelicious]

Yes George Takei (Sulu from Star Trek TOS) is the 'slightly weird American' on IAC this year. :cool: :D There are 2 more new additions for the show (not been announced yet), but I'm guessing they've got their quota of Americans! :rolleyes: :p ;)

Btw, I'm not saying I agree with what that newspaper wrote, just that it amused me when I read it! ;) Dirk's hardly 'slightly weird'. Let's face it, according to popular mainstream culture - he's wackier than Wacko Jacko! :p >:) ;)

[asmay]

Yes George Takei (Sulu from Star Trek TOS) is the 'slightly weird American' on IAC this year. :cool: :D There are 2 more new additions for the show (not been announced yet), but I'm guessing they've got their quota of Americans! :rolleyes: :p ;)

Btw, I'm not saying I agree with what that newspaper wrote, just that it amused me when I read it! ;) Dirk's hardly 'slightly weird'. Let's face it, according to popular mainstream culture - he's wackier than Wacko Jacko! :p >:) ;)

But in a very nice and attractive way, don't you think ? :oops: Give me 'wacky' like that anyday! ;):)) I have no problem with that whatsoever ... >:)

[deebeelicious]

But in a very nice and attractive way, don't you think ? :oops: Give me 'wacky' like that anyday! ;):)) I have no problem with that whatsoever ... >:)

Everyday! ;)

[shastastar]

Agreed, and brilliantly put about reality shows by Dirk.

Does anyone remember "The Monkees" ? Today that would be considered a "reality" show as they were a band manufactured by a corporation to imitate and be the american comedic / marx brothers answer to the Beatles. Even "Davy Jones" was the weird and slightly off english guy to provide a bit of color for the American audience. Most reality shows are no more real than " The Monkees" or "The Partridge Family" were real bands.

SS

[asmay]

I agree! Nevertheless, I was about 10 or 12 at the time of the Monkees and I just loved those shows!! :)) (Didn't the one with the hat start his own career one day?:confused:)

But at that time, manufactured as these bands may have been, there was a script for them to follow in order to be entertaining ... in contrast with the reality spectacles of today, which to me are mostly a mix of total boredom and the Jerry Springer show. :mad: Everytime they desperately need someone wacky enough to keep it entertaining. ;) (And to think that the whole BB concept was a Dutch show idea ......:rolleyes: not our proudest TV moment, obviously ... :cry:)

[shastastar]

So many of our reality shows here in the states are scripted, survivor, the real world, the hills, the girls next door ( girls of the playboy mansion) are all scripted loosely if not completely..... that's what I was getting at, I didn't realize overseas that all of the reality shows are not "scripted" to a point.... sorry...

LOL

SS

[asmay]

Really?:confused: I didn't know that ... In Holland they let these kind of shows 'evolve by themselves', sort of raw cut so to speak .... not always a pretty picture, :mad: with people fighting (sometimes literally, hence my association with the Jerry Springer show), kicking and screaming. More horror than reality.:cry: Over here there was one show in which there was such a display of violence that it was discussed in Parliament whether these shows ought to be broadcasted at all or at least restricted in the future .... :o:rolleyes:

From the CBB with Dirk I only saw some clips on YT, and that got really ugly with some people a few times as well ....:eek: despite of Dirk's good nature, I might add.

No, give me the Monkees (with script) anytime, even if it's just for nostalgic reasons.. ;):D

[Nacky]

I have the entire 'Monkees' series on DVD :D

Mike Nesmith (the one with the hat) had went on to be a video producer, setting up a company called 'Pacific Arts' in Los Angeles, California. He produced his own brainchild 'Elephant Parts' and had a few hit songs spawned from it. In the mid-1980s, Monkees reformed after 20 years since first becoming a world success with 'Last Train To Clarksville', a number of other hitsongs and, of course, their TV series.

The Monkees on Big Brother would be hysterical. There are so many episodes where the Monkees are intruded upon by all kinds of crazy people and the only thing they seemed to worry about was singing, dancing and flirting with girls. And driving that eyesore of a car.

[shastastar]

Nacky-

You are my hero, I only have like 90% of them on old bad VHS from TV......I went to see them in 1988 (as a teen) in concert without Mike.

I think I should challenge you to a Monkees based trivia game. LOL, I thought I was the only one that had all that useless trivia floating inside my head. Did you know that Mike's mom invented white out? and then sold the patent to gillette and that is where most of his fortune came from.
Mike also sued PBS and won over a video contract that they tried to enforce that would have meant him losing a ton of money.

WOW... DB and the Monkees, what else do we all have in common... but isn't it the truth? The Monkees were like the reality TV of the 1960s, think about that one episode in season 2 where it is just them being chased by girls around and around and around, and the pop guns.... That is so entertaining... way better than new reality TV. Or like you said... all the wacky people that came in and out every episode.... hilarious....

Love it Cheers Hope Faith and Lots of Love
SS

[Nacky]

I think everyone had a crush on Davy Jones, but I liked Mike Nesmith...not really in a romantic way but he was a no-nonsense kinda guy. I really like Peter Tork, too. He has such a sweet personality. Mickey Dolenz is a goofball, the curly one comes off like a Robin Williams (the comedian not the singer), always so full of energy and gusto. He also sang most of their hits. Today he's a director and does lots of other things.

I was like 2-3 years old when they were originally on the air, so I didn't get into the Monkees until their 1980s revival and then I was hooked from then on. Oh and you're right, Mike's mother was a secretary who invented White Out or Liquid Paper and made lots of money from that. On top of that Monkee money to boot. Nesmith wasn't with the other 3 during the revival because of his commitments with his company but he did rejoin the boys in the mid 1990s and they even televised a Monkees special/episode or something. In the episode there were kids trying to get in to see them play. The kids toilet-papered their front yard. The Monkees thought it was cute.

[shastastar]

One of my favorite Mike songs is "What am I Doing Hangin' Round" he has more of a country / pop vibe than the others.... Mostly because that song mentions San Antonio.

Peter's leads are more folk / rock "Shades of Gray"

And Mickey had almost all the lead vocals on the big ones
I'm a Believer
Last Train to Clarksville
Mary Mary
She
Pleasant Valley Sunday
Take a Giant Step
Little Bit me / Little Bit You
Monkees Theme

Davy
Daydream Believer
Look Out Here Comes Tomorrow
Valleri

and of course Davy's dreamy eyes... and the Tambourine....Just like the Jonas Brothers tamborines...
LOL
I wasn't even thought of let alone alive when the Monkees were first on TV

Take Care
SS

[Nacky]

I thought 'A Little Bit Me...' was sung by Davy. Maybe both of them took turns at the lead? But I could swear that's Davy's vocals on that. I could be mistaken, though.

[shastastar]

right again.... it is davy... on that one... or both of them...

You are more of a monkee maniac than I I give you the monkee mania crown

SS

[Nacky]

Thanks! I am definitely into the Monkees! I've tried to keep up with all their goings on and I think I've done a good job. Another bit of trivia; A Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You is penned by Neil Diamond as was I'm A Believer. (I hope I got that right) :D

[shastastar]

yes they were.... penned by neil Diamond....
good call nacky

heres one we forgot
I wanna be free Like the bluebirds flying by me......

Another Dreamy Davy ballad

LOL
take care monkee queen!!!!
all hail the queen
SS

[asmay]

Wow! :o You both know so much about them!! Great, it absolutely took me back Memory Lane .... As I am a bit (quite a lot, actually) older than you two I do remember their songs very vividly as well as their shows at the time, but as they were mostly in the States we didn't have as much news of them over here. I can't remember them ever coming over to Europe, but then again I would have been too young to go to a concert anyway.

Thanks for all the updates! Loved it! :D

[deebeelicious]

Loving the Monkees too! I keep forgetting to get their greatest hits on CD - Last Train to Clarksville one of my fav - I think I'll put that on my X list! ;)

[asmay]

Good idea! I believe I have a Greatest Hits on cassette tape ....:o must update that to a CD soon ...
Wouldn't mind at all if The Monkees shows were broadcasted on TV again :confused:.. it's all about reruns nowadays anyway ... :rolleyes:

(Did you know we already have the A-Team on Dutch TV on weekdays for almost two years now? When Season 4 finishes, the next day Season 1 starts again and this goes on and on .... (love to see Dirk :oops:, of course, but it's a bit killing your appetite for the show).

[julie1980]

Good idea! I believe I have a Greatest Hits on cassette tape ....:o must update that to a CD soon ...
Wouldn't mind at all if The Monkees shows were broadcasted on TV again :confused:.. it's all about reruns nowadays anyway ... :rolleyes:

(Did you know we already have the A-Team on Dutch TV on weekdays for almost two years now? When Season 4 finishes, the next day Season 1 starts again and this goes on and on .... (love to see Dirk :oops:, of course, but it's a bit killing your appetite for the show).


I'm a Monkees fan would you believe and I wasn't even born when they were on TV and in the Charts. They visited Paris I think in one episode of the show in the second Season I would have to watch the shows on DVD again.

Asmay I have all five seasons of The A-Team on DVD:D

Dirk in Til Death Do Us Part is really good- The expression he gives in the wedding scene is a classic:)):))

[shastastar]

Julie-

I wasn't born yet when the monkees were around either... only for the 20th anniversary reunion that they did.... They actually had a single that charted in the US in 1987 top 10... so you were alive for one of their singles.

That Paris episode is the one where the girls chase them around... so classic. I think we can somehow watch episodes of the a team for free online in the US. I did it once... it's no longer on re-runs in cable right now at least not in the US.

Cheers to all

SS

[julie1980]

Cheers Shastastar

I thought they did an episode in Paris- that episode is quite funny!!


I did see Micky and Davy in concert once back 2002 that was a good night out.

The 20th anniversary single was 'Heart and Soul' that is a good single.

Julie

[asmay]

I also have the A-Team cassettes, but still I am tempted to switch channels for a bit just to catch a glimpse of Dirk in between other programmes. :oops: But as I have seen all episodes a couple of times, I don't want to watch the whole thing on TV (you know, with all the commercial intermissions :mad:).

Would like to see those Monkees shows again, though. Haven't seen them since late sixties, early seventies. Maybe I should buy them as well ..... ;)

[shastastar]

Julie-


In the states they had that one "Heart and Soul" and " That was Then This is Now"
and "Anytime Anyplace Anywhere" all charted in the 80s ....in the US.....


We should screen the Monkees in someone's suite and have a party at the next Dirk event that we all go to.....

That would rock!!!
Cheers Hope Faith and Love

SS

[horselightning]

Mike runs videoranch and is busy with his newly created videoranch3d which you can access from videoranch. you can also buy all nez merchandise there. Nez was lasty on stage this past september at the monterey jazz festivel. he did exsactlly one song with the cortet and reperformed with the band for videoranch3d.

Micky is doing everything, he is an artist, director, actor, was on broadway and aspires to be there again,. he just finished filming the realty show gone country that will air on cmt starting january 22. he also is very busy with make a whish foundation, celebrity benefits and golf tournaments. micky has had a radio show in new york in 2005 .till the station change format. he last was on the radio in illinois when his golf tournament was rained out. micky also has his own production company with a friend. and has written a few books . he completed gakky two feet a childrens book and has a deal to do another one. also he has pattened a picture hanger that is on the desk in his work shop. and dont forget micky still tours with his sister coco and loves to perform live.

Peter has band called Shoe Sued Blues and still tours and just loves it. he is going to be with his band at an upcoming mega fest. he appeared with davy at the monkees head movies aniversary celebration in la in early november. he is also still an actor. and appears ever so often in roles in movies or guests on television.

Davy still tours all over and loves to work with his horses in Florida. he is the newiest grandpa of the monkees with 3 grandchil dren. the other is nez witha hand full of grandchildren of h is own.

did i forget anything? Umm only two of the four monkees are married. that would be micky and Mike. bewtween the four of them they 15 children combined.

and to get the monkees on dvd you have to order it the t wo seasons on dvd from rhinos web page or you can get them on ebay. ebay is also were mickys merchadise company sales his merchadise. is davy or peter have anything for sale it would be anouced on their web pages.

[asmay]

Thanks for the update! Wow, you have all the info we needed!! I'm very impressed. :cool:

[horselightning]

your welcome would like to hear about their kids too? btw the monkees head m ovie had its 40th aniversary. that's the aniversary it was.

[asmay]

40 year anniversary, eh?! Now I'm feeling old ..... I was 11, 12 at the time and had a serious crush on them.:oops: After they split up we hardly heard from any of them again ( at least, here in Holland), so I'm glad I finally caught up with them!

Yes please, as this is turning out in a semi-Monkees thread;): anything you know about their children ... I'm in!! :cool:

[horselightning]

mike has f our children christin. jonathon . jason and jessica. all musicians.

peter has three children , Hally .Ivan and Erica. Hally is a teacher, Ivan is a drummer and works and caffee and Erica is only 11.

micky has 4 duaghters, ami, charlotte , emily and georgia. ami i s an actress as her husband is too. charlotte i think is t he one that was mamnging a java city. emily is photographer and g eorgia does theatre. mickys thre y oungest daughters are e nglish and l ive in en gland.

davy has 4 daughters , talia , sarah , jessica and anabelle. talia is the althletic one and i s o f ten in runathions an d racing horses. jessica is an actress and mother. jessica manages musical g roups and i s mother, and annabel is a singer.

[horselightning]

course that could hav e all changed.

[asmay]

Thanks for the update! :cool: I had no idea what they had been doing after they broke up. They do have a lot of daughters between them, haven´t they? No Monkees, but girlpower..... :))