A-Team Movie

[horselightning]

So what do you all think of the A-Team movie being made as a tribute to the guys? I think their to make cameos in it. Who do you think would best be suited to play the guys?

[julie w]

Personally - with all due respect to you ( or to any actor who they would get to play the parts) - I don't believe I would be the least bit interrested in seeing an "A-Team" movie without Dirk, Dwight, and T playing their original characters and putting them in a position to *properly* play out their characters lives in todays time period. It would be interresting to see how they would cope with Hannibal's death (not to mention to see how Hannibal's life came to its end) and to see how they would carry on without him. If they *really* wanted to, they could make a great script out of it. I, myself, a few years back started a fan fic about it. Unfortunatly I've never had the time to finish it. Not that it would have done me any good. TPTB would never be smart enough to give the fans what we want in that aspect as TPTB never seem to have 2 brain cells to rub together. But, hey, that's MHO.

Boy....am I being a bit feisty tonight or what?! :lol:

[horselightning]

The purpse was for it ot be a tribute! I read some where Dwight was postive about the project. Most fans are excired and are making lists on message boards opicking who will play the leads in the big picture.

[julie w]

"The purpse was for it ot be a tribute!"

Fine, have your tribute. I never said you couldn't.:-) You asked our opinion - and I gave you *mine*.

"Most fans are excired..."

Again...fine. I'm just not one of them. However, if your talking about a tribute in the form of a movie on a small scale (independant or stage play - which since you mentioned "movie" then the stage play idea would most likely not be a consideration) then cool, that *would* be interresting to see. If your talking about a BIG production movie like what they did to "Charlie's Angles" "Starsky and Hutch" and now the "Dukes of Hazard" - then - No. I personally *don't* want to see that. If the actors themselves don't mind then - cool. But *I* just don't think *I*, myself, would want to see it. It's just MO.

Look, I wasn't trying to belittle the idea (or your excitment) in any way but, come on....in all seriousness. If fans had a choice between having a movie made with *new* actors playing the "Team" and the remainding members of the *original* "A-Team" I think it would be hands down who they would pick. Besides, who says we all can't have BOTH a tribute movie AND a "reunion" movie? Personally, I think it would be a cold day in hell that they would do a movie with the original actors but I can make my wishes can't I? (No matter how in vain it might be) :-)

Julie

[Tracy]

Speaking strictly for myself, I could do without a big screen movie with a new *younger* cast like they are proposing.
Our four guys back in the 80's had their very own special magic, and I'm not sure if that could be captured again with different people.
I'd prefer to remember the show as it was than have it possibly parodied a la "Charlies Angles" or "Starsky and Hutch" :D

[horselightning]

Hey I just see it as a postive thing, and I don't cast a negative shadow on it! I don;t see it as a replacement of the guys at all. But your sertainly intitled to your opnions. I guess theres going to be a few negatives inbeded in all the excitement. And Please don't think theres an atitude to my statement cause theres not. It just seems unfair to judge a project before it's viewed!

[Limited Edition]

At one point I'm curious how it would look, what the story will be like, etc. But then again, a movie would just be 1 extra episode. Maybe it's an option to make that 'episode' the very last one, since the real series ended so suddenly.
Wouldn't it be a great story that after all those years they'd get caught, get a trial and a witness gets found who has the story that sets them free?

I read that Dirk and Dwight don't want to appear in the movie like the original guys from Starsky and Hutch, where they give the S&H from the movie a new car. Sorry, I don't know the word for it :wink:
But playing themselves wouldn't work for me either, the A-team is not the A-team without Hannibal.

[facemansgirl]

I don't want to rain on anyones parade. I think that a movie would be great especially when the world has become such a angry war filled crap hole that we are all stuck in. But I would only want to see it if Dirk, Dwight and Mr. T themselves were cast as "Face", "Murdock", & "B.A.". As for Hannibal, I see a few options. First they could write in his death [( murder?) and the team tracks down his killer?] , recast the role, or computer generate George himself. Coke did it with Marylin Monroe!

[sara]

I don't want to rain on anyones parade. I think that a movie would be great especially when the world has become such a angry war filled crap hole that we are all stuck in. But I would only want to see it if Dirk, Dwight and Mr. T themselves were cast as "Face", "Murdock", & "B.A.". As for Hannibal, I see a few options. First they could write in his death [( murder?) and the team tracks down his killer?] , recast the role, or computer generate George himself. Coke did it with Marylin Monroe!

I also thought that a technological solution (computer generating George) could be the only one possible: as I wrote a lot of time I can't imagine The A-Team without the original actors, they can't be replaced!!! But after I while I thought that creating George's image with a computer for a film wouldn't maybe be very respectful to him and I changed my mind. :?
My conclusion is always the same: there can be only ONE A-Team: the original one!!! No reproductions!!! :)

[Lily]

I have written this before and i have only one example, I saw this film and went home shaking.

THE AVENGERS
since then i have not seen many tv re-makes to film ever.
Enough said....

[sara]

Speaking strictly for myself, I could do without a big screen movie with a new *younger* cast like they are proposing.
Our four guys back in the 80's had their very own special magic, and I'm not sure if that could be captured again with different people.
I'd prefer to remember the show as it was than have it possibly parodied a la "Charlies Angles" or "Starsky and Hutch" :D

Hi Tracy!!
I've just read your words and I completely share your opinion! :) Very very well said!!!

Hi Lily, I 100% agree with you too!!

Thanks!! :D :wink:

[moviemogul]

Hi Tracy, Sara, Lily

Yes would have to agree with you, you cannot get magic like that back again, you only have to watch the pilot and the first episode to see the difference Dirk made when he took up the role of Face from Tom Dunigan, he is a very important part of the A Team.
Chemistry is a very unusual thing, no one knows why some actors work well together and other dont. I would rather the idea be scrapped rather than a bad remake be made. 8)

[sara]

Hi Tracy, Sara, Lily

Yes would have to agree with you, you cannot get magic like that back again, you only have to watch the pilot and the first episode to see the difference Dirk made when he took up the role of Face from Tom Dunigan, he is a very important part of the A Team.
Chemistry is a very unusual thing, no one knows why some actors work well together and other dont. I would rather the idea be scrapped rather than a bad remake be made. 8)

Hi moviemogul!
I totally agree with you! I also thought like that while watching the first episode.
You're right about chemistry: it's important also in love stories, friendships, collaborations of every kind.
That magic can't be reproducted :wink:

[dbukfan]

Hi All

Just fr my own opinion for the A-Team, the movie...my choices 'll be :shock: :?

George Clooney = Hannibal

Ben Stiler = FaceMan.......(sorry about the height & the look :wink: :wink:..he does got GSOH's charisma though)

Owen Wilson = Murdock...(I think he's just perfect role for him :lol: :lol: )

and this's the hard one, Mr T.= Mr T (hee..hee..hee) :lol: :lol: :lol: ..hope he still got all of his jewels :wink: :wink:


What's U guys's choices?...yr turn, pls :) :D


dbukfan...x

[ostarella]

Ben Stiler = FaceMan

Ben Stiller? :shock:

ewww :wink:

[bibbi]

Hi everyone! :D

Ben Stiller as Face? :? :shock: :P ...ewwwww!....NO WAY!

The only actors that should do the roles and MUST are:
Face - Dirk Benedict
Murdock - Dwight Schultz
B.A. - Mr. T
Hannibal - George Peppard

YOU CAN'T HAVE HANNIBAL, FACE, MURDOCK AND B.A. WITH OTHER ACTORS IN THE ROLES! !

:oops: ...sorry I had to rant......I just can't stand the choices I have seen people make in the actors for the roles....you CANNOT replace an original!.....:x......yeesshhhhh :roll:

The ONLY way a movie would work if the original members of the A-Team went to find Hannibal's killers, we'd have flashbacks w. George Peppard as Hannibal and the team would recruit new members to become a new A-Team.

I'm really sick and tired of Hollywood making crappy remakes of classic TV series into crappy movies, Dukes of Hazzard, Bewitched, Charlie's Angels, to name a few.

Why mess with perfection? Nuff said. :roll:


Take care,
Anne :)

[Genny]

No, I don't see Ben Stiller as Face nor Owen Wilson as Mad Murdoch, because their sense of humour doesn't appeal to me plus I don't think they project enough intelligence. So it would be a case of losing what the original has before even getting to the point that Dirk and Dwight too, fair play, were and are more attractive. A film would be a turkey, if very special actors were replaced with ..shall I say ..currently known, ones who are not, exceptional. ' :shock: :shock: :shock:

[dbukfan]

Hi All

Pls do not take it so serious....girls :lol: :lol: ....I'm entitled to my opinion too, amn't I?...do not get upset fr or fallen out fr this discussion, pls :shock: :shock:

Frankly, it's not my place me to choose the casts......I'm sure that the Hollywood Producer will :wink: :wink:

Now let's say about the alternative choices,

How about, FaceMan = Brad Pitt or Ewan McGregor.

Hannibal = George Clooney... :wink: :wink:

I pass this comment fr DB's himself on RI:SE interview about GC.....I think he's a best choice!!..I agree with him....see even DB's relaxed about it!!...time's moving on....I know the A-Team is one of the most popular programme in the world at that time...I'm certainly hope that the producer will try their v best to pick the right/best casts for the remake if it ever happens!!

C'mon Girls, pls do not take it into hearts or too seriously....I do admire and highly respect DB as much as U guys/all fans here, I'm sure he won't mind if I put my honest opinion across sharing with U all too. :wink: :wink:


Cheerio


dbukfan...x

[Ingra]

[quote]Pls do not take it so serious....girls :lol: :lol: ....

absolutely, its all in good fun.


Now let's say about the alternative choices,

How about, FaceMan = Brad Pitt or Ewan McGregor.

how about John Stamos?

[bibbi]

Hi everyone! :D
I know it's in good fun.
But, John Stamos! :shock: :shock: :P :P NO!!!!!
:oops: ...here I go ranting again!.....
As far as I'm concerned.
Dirk Benedict IS Face, Dwight Schultz IS Murdock, Mr. T IS B.A. and George Peppard IS Hannibal.
They ARE the A-Team!, no other actors would do the roles justice!.
:oops: ...am ranting again! I can't help it.....
When those actors took on the roles as the A-Team, they broke the mold and you CANNOT replace them!
:oops: .....am still ranting......sorry, I can't help myself......
Why mess with perfection? and as B.A. would say "Shut up Fool!" :D :lol:
.... :oops: ...still ranting.....others actors in the roles..yeeshhhh... :roll:
:oops: sorry, I tend to really vent when I'm upset about something....
............still grumbling...other actors in the roles....:roll:........

Take care,
Anne :)

[sara]

Hi everybody!!! :lol:
Of course it's in good fun!! :wink:
Everybody's opinion is important!..... however..... I must confess....... I COULDN'T really stand anybody else in their roles!!! :!: :!: :!: :!:

con affetto

[ostarella]

Yeah, what the heck? Might as well wait to gripe until they actually start making it :lol:

[dbukfan]

Anne

Sorry to say, I hang up my coat on this subject :roll:


Have a relaxing wkend :)


dbukfan..x

[sara]

Hi dbuk!!!

Have a relaxing wkend :)

You too!!
passa un buon fine settimana!! :lol: :wink:

[Ingra]

Hi everyone! :D
I know it's in good fun.
But, John Stamos! :shock: :shock: :P :P NO!!!!!
:oops: ...here I go ranting again!.....
As far as I'm concerned.
Dirk Benedict IS Face, Dwight Schultz IS Murdock, Mr. T IS B.A. and George Peppard IS Hannibal.
They ARE the A-Team!, no other actors would do the roles justice!.
:oops: ...am ranting again! I can't help it.....
When those actors took on the roles as the A-Team, they broke the mold and you CANNOT replace them!
:oops: .....am still ranting......sorry, I can't help myself......
Why mess with perfection? and as B.A. would say "Shut up Fool!" :D :lol:
.... :oops: ...still ranting.....others actors in the roles..yeeshhhh... :roll:
:oops: sorry, I tend to really vent when I'm upset about something....
............still grumbling...other actors in the roles....:roll:........

Take care,
Anne :)


Honestly, i had no intentions upsetting anyone on this forum. I apologize.


Ingra

[bibbi]

Hi everyone! :D
This thread is all in good fun! :D
I'm the one that should be apologizing!.... :oops:
I tend to rant about things...you should see me going on about television commercials! :lol:
I just have very strong feelings on who should portray the A-Team, if there is a movie.
Sorry, I didn't meant to upset anyone. :oops:

Take care,
Anne :)

[ostarella]

Hey, yeah, the whole thing is just in fun - who knows, someday Anne may tell us how she *really* feels about it :lol: :lol:

[bibbi]

Hi ostarella! :D
Hi again everyone! :D
Thanks I feel so much better!
I do tend to rant about things. :oops: ...bad habit of mine.....
I just feel very strongly that the only actors that would do justice to the A-Team characters are the original actors.
So, again, if I've offended anyone one here, I'm truly sorry.
You people here are terrific! :D :D :D
I wish I could give everyone here a hug.

Take care,
Anne :)

[sara]

Don't worry Anne!!! :wink:

Be sure that your opinion about this topic is VERY clear!!! :lol: :P :wink:
un abbraccio anche a te (a hug to you too)

[Arciris]

Hi everyone! :D

Ben Stiller as Face? :? :shock: :P ...ewwwww!....NO WAY!

The only actors that should do the roles and MUST are:
Face - Dirk Benedict
Murdock - Dwight Schultz
B.A. - Mr. T
Hannibal - George Peppard

YOU CAN'T HAVE HANNIBAL, FACE, MURDOCK AND B.A. WITH OTHER ACTORS IN THE ROLES! !

:oops: ...sorry I had to rant......I just can't stand the choices I have seen people make in the actors for the roles....you CANNOT replace an original!.....:x......yeesshhhhh :roll:

The ONLY way a movie would work if the original members of the A-Team went to find Hannibal's killers, we'd have flashbacks w. George Peppard as Hannibal and the team would recruit new members to become a new A-Team.

I'm really sick and tired of Hollywood making crappy remakes of classic TV series into crappy movies, Dukes of Hazzard, Bewitched, Charlie's Angels, to name a few.

Why mess with perfection? Nuff said. :roll:


Take care,
Anne :)

I agree!!
I want A-team movie with Dirk, Dwight, Mr T and George.
The other things will be for me a decepcion..too :cry:

[starlight]

I'm really sick and tired of Hollywood making crappy remakes of classic TV series into crappy movies, Dukes of Hazzard, Bewitched, Charlie's Angels, to name a few.

I actually liked Charlie's Angels. I was 16 when it was released and thought the movie was really cool. Now that I'm older, my illusion of how great the movie was has been broken and realise that it was made for 16 year olds. lol! Bill Murray was great in it.

Okay, back to The A-Team casting. I would cast all the original cast members. I really can't see any other actors playing the Team. To be honest, I find Face the hardest to cast. I can't think of any other actor that can portray the good looking conman to his intelligent, sexy, charismatic, classy, cheeky but loveable self. I know Brad Pitt has been said several times to play Face but I really don't find him any of the above. Jim Carrey could play Murdoch with a good director to reign him in a bit.

[sara]

Arciris, Anne..
I agree with you as you already know..

it would be nice to let Dirk and Dwight know that a lot of us think like this.... :?
But maybe they've already read it on their sites.. :P :wink:

[ostarella]

Latest "news" (I guess)

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news07/071211f.php

Only notice I've seen of it so I don't know if it's confirmed or just another rumor...

[UKJules]

My hubby heard on the radio this afternoon, that there is going to be an A team film and the three original cast members (Dirk, Dwight & Mr T) will be in it :!: Does anyone know if there is any truth in this :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

[deebeelicious]

Yahoo are reporting John Singleton as being up to direct it with poss Mark Wahlberg in it.
This has been speculated about again and again. My view is I don't trust someone as being in a film until I see the cast list (EDIT - I meant credits ! :oops: ) rolling by (at the end of the film! :P ).
Hollywood thrives on gossip and speculation, and talks between people. I'm sure Dirk and the others have been 'approached' several times about an A-T Movie remake and perhaps again now. Kinda think it's not worth speculating any more until they start production? :cry:

[ostarella]

The only thing I've heard is Mr T getting quite "perturbed" at the idea of being asked to do a cameo, but that was some time ago.

Maybe they could rework the story so Face gets called back to the military - he could be the "new" Hannibal.

Works for me :lol:

[Denise Ross]

I 100% agree with you Ostarella Ben Stiller EWWWWWWW!

[bibbi]

I'd rather see a movie with the original actors in their roles. Flashbacks for George Peppard who played Hannibal or no movie at all.
When they made the original A-Team series they broke the mold!

[ostarella]

The originals would be good - but somehow I can't see the guys battling off the bad guys any more :wink: If they're going to make one at all, I would hope they would at least retain the "Jazz", the fun, and not make it all dark and angst. I wouldn't mind it being more realistic, but if they don't have fun, it's not the A-Team.

(Besides, only one of them really looks as good now as he did then 8) )

[sara]

I'd rather see a movie with the original actors in their roles. Flashbacks for George Peppard who played Hannibal or no movie at all.
When they made the original A-Team series they broke the mold!

Anne is copletely right, and I also agree with ostarella: the A-Team isn't thought to be realistic.. but to be "positive".. and in our present world we need it! :wink:

[deebeelicious]

Families don't (have time to?) watch the tv (or go to the cinema) together anymore - and with so many channels and other entertainment vehicles like computer video games, the audiences are 'segmented'? So studios are chasing the teen/adult (post-watershed in UK or R-rated '15' certificate) slots. So every reimagining/remake is darker and grittier now since the 1980s - I suppose it began with Batman the movie starring Michael Keaton?

So unless the film-makers make the show deliberately 'unmodern' eg the Brady Bunch, its unlikely that a 'family' A-Team movie will be made? :cry:

[Crazy Tommy T]

I just read a review of somebody that's read the script (it's now been removed after threats from the studio). Anyway, it's sounds awful. Face and Lynch are the bad guys. :evil: Face rats out Hannibal and BA, after the robbery (that they did under orders) and they both go to jail (where they meet Murdock).

[ani]

0.o
Face and . . sdhgdfghsdlkg
If that's true I guess they are going for Dark and angsty anti-heros. No surprise really, trendy psuedo-angst and badder than the bad guys "good" guys are what's hip, but If true, what a waste. :roll:

What I wanna know is why can Harrison Ford still be Indiana Jones, but Dirk, Dwight, and T can't be the A-Team!!
I know they're down George, but C'mon, you telling me there's no one in Hollywood creative enough to work around that . . no wait . . that's probably true. :roll:
PFFT


The one rumor on cast that I actually kinda hope is true is Brendan Fraser as Murdock (The lead in The Mummy and George of the Jungle). If they gotta replace the actors becuase old age that isn't Harrison Ford, Sean Connery, or plastic surgeried to death scares Hollywood, that casting at least would give me hope that the movie won't destroy the fun feel of the A-Team.

And Dirk hismelf suggested on of the leads from friends to play Face, and I think I'd actually be ok with that . . especially Matt LaBlanc, though I think Dirk didn't mean him (Dirk dind't know which guy he meant by name and I couldn't tell from his description which guy he meant, though I think Matt Perry)

[sara]

I just read a review of somebody that's read the script (it's now been removed after threats from the studio). Anyway, it's sounds awful. Face and Lynch are the bad guys. :evil: Face rats out Hannibal and BA, after the robbery (that they did under orders) and they both go to jail (where they meet Murdock).

Hi C.T.T.
I've just read the article and I find it all really terrible.
I don't agree with any kind of ATeam movie, cause I find it would spoil the magic of our myth, but I think that this idea is much more horrible than I could suppose. :(
That's really a miserable way to try to get some money using the success of a great creation that can't be repeated. And sure not in this injurious way!!! :evil:

[bibbi]

If they make the movie and I say IF. I will choose to ignore it and pretend it does not exist.
And again my chief question is WHY?? :?

[sara]

If they make the movie and I say IF. I will choose to ignore it and pretend it does not exist.
And again my chief question is WHY?? :?

My question is the same .. and the only answer I can find is .. Money! :x

I'll ignore it too.. and I hope the majority of the true ATeam fans will do the same... :roll:

[Lily]

With a bit of luck it will be like the Red Dwarf movie - non existent ( tho i would have liked a RD movie they would have used the original actors...)
*fingers crossed*

[ani]

Devil's Advocate:
My best friend and I were discussing the A-Team movie over a Friday's dinner and she made an interesting point.
In interviews, Dirk, Dwight, and Cannell (or however you spell that name) have all said that the A-Team TV series was sillier and more slapstick than Cannell had intended.

So here's the thing. If Cannell is involved in the movie( and most rumors hint that he is rather than is not) and he makes it darker and grittier and all around more R rated because that's what he wanted but couldn't do with the show . . . then that's him doing his creation how he wants, and not selling out.
Catering to the fans and keeping it like the show would be selling out if that's the case.

My friend also pointed out that fanfiction is usually WAY darker than the TV series (which is one of the reasons I don't read a lot of A-Team fics), so the fandom itself seems to want a darker A-Team.

So as far as atmospheric changes go it seems Cannell would want it and that's creators perogative and the fans seem to want it too, if you look at what they write.

As far as actor changes go
On the one hand, that's annoying, they could at least wait until they were dead so the reason for not using the original actors is obvious.

But then if they (please please please) keep it inline with either Vietnam or the 80's you *have* to get younger actors. I love Dirk, but he can't play a 40 year old let alone a young 20 something if they go back and tell the story of the A-Team forming.
I hate to say it, but in that case, re-casting makes sense and IMHO, fixing up the A-Team background story is, I'd think, one of the more viable movie plots (sorry but the background in the 5th season trilogy was AWFUL and they can totally re-write it for all I care)

If they reset it in Iraq *sigh* I'll be annoyed.

But then IMO, The Fugitive worked, so did Ocean's 11, so have other adaptions. Heck Mash was insanely good and had nearly no similar cast between the Movie then the TV show (granted movie came first in that case).

So we've both decided we'll give it a fair shake before we right the movie off, because we've both seen good adaptations done and well . . a movie rarely replaces a TV show. I mean if I say 'Bewitched" next to no one will think Nicole Kidman (that btw was NOT a good adaptation)

Unless the trailer is just miserable looking we both figure we'll see it.

[ostarella]

I might have been willing to give it a "fair shake" *but* I cannot deal with them making one of the team a traitor. A darker movie - yeah, I could live with that, as long as it didn't become Ramboesque type of BS - I mean, even when Cannell was taking an active role in the show, there was that "Jazz" thing. And frankly, the slapstick I could've easily lived without in the show - but with some of the writers they had, I don't blame them for having what fun they could with the scripts. But no, the dying breath for me was making Face (or any member of the team) a turncoat. Then it became just another (yawn) war movie whose characters have very familiar sounding names.

[ani]

I might have been willing to give it a "fair shake" *but* I cannot deal with them making one of the team a traitor. A darker movie - yeah, I could live with that, as long as it didn't become Ramboesque type of BS - I mean, even when Cannell was taking an active role in the show, there was that "Jazz" thing. And frankly, the slapstick I could've easily lived without in the show - but with some of the writers they had, I don't blame them for having what fun they could with the scripts. But no, the dying breath for me was making Face (or any member of the team) a turncoat. Then it became just another (yawn) war movie whose characters have very familiar sounding names.

Ah ok, see I don't consider that rumor credible yet (no offense meant Tommy ^^). It's like all that nonsense with the end of Harry Potter. *headdesk* Only one rumor was actually based on truth and that was the one leaked three days before the book was released. I don't really think the script hit online, or if it did, there's no telling wha draft that is. It certainly was not the shooting script.

I mean I have a book on the making of the Ghostbusters script and between the initial ideas and the actual shoting script and then what got added as shooitng was done, well there's ummmm I think guys fighting ghosts is about the only similarity.

So *shrugs*
I'm certianly not writing it off on a rumor :roll:

So if the script turns out to be untrue, would you give it a chance? ^__^
Or if Face is an intial antagonist rather than a villian (because keep in mind, as presented in the show the A-Team DID committ the crime. Whether the order was given by a traitor, they were dumb enough to follow it, and being ordered to ROB A BANK should have raised some major red flags *have I mentioned I think the whole trial was dumb?*, so it's possible to write Face as trying to do the right thing and working as an atagonist)

[ostarella]

Oh yeah - as long as they don't make any of the team the real bad guy, I'm happy. Well, maybe not *happy* - but at least I'd give it a look. :D I just don't want them to turn the guys we know topsy-turvy - ask any of my writing compadres - that's a definite No-no in my book. :evil:

Glad you mentioned the robbery - I like to mention the fact that they *did* commit a crime, under orders or not. But then, we're probably two of the few nit-pickers on that count. :D

[ani]

:D I just don't want them to turn the guys we know topsy-turvy - ask any of my writing compadres - that's a definite No-no in my book. :evil:

Oh absolutely. I think we can all agree Kung Fo Master, Soft Spoken, Polite, Female BA would be grounds for someone's head :twisted:


Glad you mentioned the robbery - I like to mention the fact that they *did* commit a crime, under orders or not. But then, we're probably two of the few nit-pickers on that count. :D

AH! YAY! I'm so glad to hear someone else noticed that, I kinda felt like I was the only one. I mean I can kinda see Face going along with it, because that's the honest thing to do (ok Face and hoensty umm maybe I should say 'honorable') until he realizes the army doesn't just want to normal punish them, the army wants to make al public example and throw the book and then some at them.
. . . Drat :roll:

Do you want a plot bunny? I don't write fanfics much. :oops: :wink:

[ostarella]

Do you want a plot bunny? I don't write fanfics much.

I love bunnies - I have a hutch that keeps growing, and growing and growing... :shock: :wink:

[sara]

Well friends..
I would find it a very bad taste to make the movie take place in Iraq. Expecially in the present international situation.
Vietnam was in a different politician and social environment.. and that's the only situation the A-Team could ever be born.

About the crime.. it's said even in the introduction "a crime they didn't commit".. changing this aspect is like changing the assumption and the presupposition.
The same about a bad guy in the Team.. absolute nonsense...

And about the cast... well of course they can't use the same cast, especially in Hannibal's case. And this is the main reason because the movie doesn't have to be made.
A Team without original cast is like spaghetti without real pasta (Italian example!!! :lol: ). It can't exist. It's something else..

[ostarella]

About the crime.. it's said even in the introduction "a crime they didn't commit".. changing this aspect is like changing the assumption and the presupposition.

Ani's mentioned this also but I'll mention it again :wink: - that beginning statement of the show is incorrect. They did, in fact, commit a crime. Whether they were ordered to or not does not make it any less a crime according to international law.

Just being nit-picky 8) :wink:

[sara]

:lol: :lol: ostarella.. you're very precise!!
I confess I don't agree totally with your interpretation: since they were ordered to do it, they just did what they had to. It wasn't a crime. In war it works like that: if you are ordered to kill someone for instance, you must do it and it isn't considered a crime. If it were each soldier would be a criminal! :roll:

[ostarella]

Killing an enemy combatant is what war is. Robbing a civilian bank is a crime under the Geneva convention:

War crimes are defined in the statute that established the International Criminal Court, which includes:

1. Grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions, such as: Unlawful wanton destruction or appropriation of property

Breaching the "rules of war" under orders is still considered a crime, because the soldier is expected to know what's allowed and refuse such an order. ;-)

[sara]

If I remember right they weren't ordered to rob the bank, but to have back some money (stealing them of course) that had been stolen to Americans.
After their finishing their mission the bank was completely robbed and Morrison was supposed to be the responsible..

I don't remember exactly where I heard it, but I think it was like that... :roll:

[ostarella]

In the Trial Trilogy, Hannibal said Morrison had a plan that would bring the war to an end quicker, and that's why they were doing it. More money was apparently stolen after they left, but with the hole in the wall they left, that's not unexpected :lol:

[sara]

:lol: :lol: :lol: Your knowledge is encyclopedic!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[ostarella]

I've said it before and I'll probably say it again - I HAVE NO LIFE!!!! :lol: :lol:

[sara]

I've said it before and I'll probably say it again - I HAVE NO LIFE!!!! :lol: :lol:

I've said it before and I'll probably say it again - THAT'S NOT TRUE!!! :wink:

You've got your life and you've got your hobbies (and Dirk is a cool hobby!!).. that's normal..
You're my A-Team Teacher!!!! :lol: :wink:

[ostarella]

I can just see my tombstone:

Here lies Star
All out of steam;
Didn't do much
But she knew her A-Team

:lol: :lol:

[ani]

There are worse things a tombstone could say =P

Plus thank you so much for the informative post! I didn't want to say anything because I only *thought* it fell under the Geneva Convention, but it occured to me that, IIRC, after the Vietnam war, they did revamp some of the codes and such because there was such an issue with soldiers being put on trial for following orders, so I wasn't sure if what I thought was relevent to the A-Team really would have aplied to them!

But now I know. ^__^

On a side note on Vietnam war knowledge, you know, the only reason it was even covered while I was in school was because I took an advanced history class my senior year (wordl topics) and because I had a 5th grade history teacher whose father was MIA because of Vietnam so she forwent the normal history structure to make darn sure we learned about that war (and coincedently taught there only one year).

Otherwise, we're so busy covering cave men and what not that "history" is lucky to get to WWII in Texas public education -_-

[ostarella]

It's amazing the things that don't get taught in school. When my son was in high school, I couldn't believe it. Don't even get me started on "modern" education :evil: If I had to do it over again, I'd seriously consider home school. Hindsight is 20/20, as they say.

[Nacky]

Hi All

Just fr my own opinion for the A-Team, the movie...my choices 'll be :shock: :?

George Clooney = Hannibal

Ben Stiler = FaceMan.......(sorry about the height & the look :wink: :wink:..he does got GSOH's charisma though)

Owen Wilson = Murdock...(I think he's just perfect role for him :lol: :lol: )

and this's the hard one, Mr T.= Mr T (hee..hee..hee) :lol: :lol: :lol: ..hope he still got all of his jewels :wink: :wink:


What's U guys's choices?...yr turn, pls :) :D


dbukfan...x


I like. Now don't get me wrong I'm wary of remakes anyway. Starsky & Hutch had its moments but blew chunks, I thought. I did however like the Charlie's Angels remake. Maybe that's because I never really watched these two shows when they originally aired. Really, my time was spent listening to music, writing music, rather than watching TV and that was all done in between travels across the country. So my memories of TV are not as many as some. I remember that Friday or Saturday Late Night thing called "Nightmare Theater", I don't think I ever missed an episode of that when we were chillin' for a while there in 1979-1980. But who knows? Come to think of it, yeah I missed some eps. Hey, ya know?

Anyway...aaanyway...I think those characters are a good choice and I like Ben Stiller (he was in Night at the Museum, wasn't he?) Owen Wilson-bless his heart! I love that guy! So dbukfan don't feel alone, in the parody I've had a hand in writing of The Lord of the Rings, I suggested that Leslie Nielson could play Gandalf...you know, because it's supposed to be a funny version and all. LOL, someone said "That's just...wrong" LMAO!

[Lt. Templeton TLoS Peck]

I don't see Cannell making a good A-Team movie.

He's an excellent writter but:

- the original cast and not Cannell gave the members of the A-Team "body". They took away the characters from Cannell;

- Cannell wrote many great shows, but he's at his best if he does 45 minutes episodes. I wonder if he could give us 90 minutes of great action. The double episodes he produced are not his best shows. There are some double episodes in the a-team, and I always have the feeling they are just a little bit too long to thrill you from the first till the last second.

That's why I do not believe in an a-team movie. You can't say: "use the original formula, and double it in time".

A movie would ask a different approach, but then I wonder: what will it have to do with the original a-team?